charliec Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) i was wondering if anyone knows how to setup the rear tv with the original menu/HDD, cant figure it out! Edited September 15, 2021 by charliec spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Hi again, I don't have the theatre system, so am not sure your system even has TV. If it has, it will be optimised for Japan! I'll check my manuals. My DVD works fine, but is fiddly with all the Japanese stuff to wade through for track selection, etc. I would expect your DVD to play to the TV screen whilst the vehicle is stationary. I also assume the rear TV should work when on the move.... More reading required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliec Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rojie said: Hi again, I don't have the theatre system, so am not sure your system even has TV. If it has, it will be optimised for Japan! I'll check my manuals. My DVD works fine, but is fiddly with all the Japanese stuff to wade through for track selection, etc. I would expect your DVD to play to the TV screen whilst the vehicle is stationary. I also assume the rear TV should work when on the move.... More reading required. when you say my system doesn't have a tv what do you mean by that? I deffo have one next to the climate controls and Raeem demonstrated how it worked, but not how it turned on. So that's all I'm looking for. I am also not fussed about music on a DVD because i have a bluetooth adapter for my iphone, works like a charm... but still want apple car play! my 05 cooper s is going to the garage friday with a few problems so that will be the apple car play money gone for a little while haha... so i will have to wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Did Naeem demo the TV through a phone app ? Or was it showing regular English TV ? Do you have the HDD manuals? I have two. Page 284 in the thicker HDD manual seems to be where the TV section begins (in Japanese). My English language handbook do not even cover the HDD, let alone the Theatre system. Maybe you need to call, or visit Naeem, as you aren't a million miles away ! Although I don't have the Theatre system you have raised my curiousity regarding the TV. Perhaps I can get mine to work. If not, I expect to buy an Xtron tuner and wire that in . Good luck, and please let me know how you get it switched on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliec Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rojie said: Did Naeem demo the TV through a phone app ? Or was it showing regular English TV ? Do you have the HDD manuals? I have two. Page 284 in the thicker HDD manual seems to be where the TV section begins (in Japanese). My English language handbook do not even cover the HDD, let alone the Theatre system. Maybe you need to call, or visit Naeem, as you aren't a million miles away ! Although I don't have the Theatre system you have raised my curiousity regarding the TV. Perhaps I can get mine to work. If not, I expect to buy an Xtron tuner and wire that in . Good luck, and please let me know how you get it switched on. yes i do have the HDD manuals. and yes, it was showing regular english tv. I dont know how he did it but he seems to know his way round these cars, also sorry i keep calling him Raeem, i know someone called that so i keep getting it mixed up! maybe thats what my VTR connection is for? im trying to figure out how to turn it on too, alot trickier than it should be!! when i press the tv button nothing appears but somehow Naeem put channels up my remotes need new batteries so i will have to get them first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I have not got around to trying the VTR terminals. I am assuming if I feed RCA signals in there, they will appear on the HDD screen. That's how I was going to attach the Xtron TV tuner, but would input some other RCA signals just to test the connection. Voyage of discovery. Pop round to Naeem, I am sure he won't mind. I would if I was as close as you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliec Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Rojie said: I have not got around to trying the VTR terminals. I am assuming if I feed RCA signals in there, they will appear on the HDD screen. That's how I was going to attach the Xtron TV tuner, but would input some other RCA signals just to test the connection. Voyage of discovery. Pop round to Naeem, I am sure he won't mind. I would if I was as close as you are. Yeah will do, just sent an email and he said he is happy to sort it out for me! Edited September 16, 2021 by charliec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliec Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 also @Rojie here are the floormats i bought https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-3-Piece-All-Season-Rubber-Trucks/dp/B07TXB6BJS/ref=sr_1_18?adgrpid=67110208727&dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw1ouKBhC5ARIsAHXNMI8PdBdP5-hf4pZKm_tb_GkLt7FHcjwnD65iceYUmjFm_XG2Kyf80MgaAq47EALw_wcB&hvadid=318260862652&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9045954&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10704214917258148704&hvtargid=kwd-506699352894&hydadcr=7043_1811078&keywords=toyota%2Balphard%2Bmats&qid=1631805501&quartzVehicle=111-11790&replacementKeywords=mats&sr=8-18&th=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Thanks for the floormat info. Much appreciated. Please let me, and all Alphardies, know how to turn the TV on. I was using Google Lens last night but didn't find the answer yet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliec Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Rojie said: Thanks for the floormat info. Much appreciated. Please let me, and all Alphardies, know how to turn the TV on. I was using Google Lens last night but didn't find the answer yet ! I've figured how to turn on the tv! cant get uk channels yet, but dvds and blu rays work, can you send videos onto the forum because i will send one? or a little photo guide?? Edited September 16, 2021 by charliec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Well done you for getting the TV to turn on. After reading the manuals, yet again, my guess is your next step is to tune the set into the UK channels. You can certainly add photos, as I did when you requested shots of my 'woodwork'. Add them as attachments, drag and drop as it says below your messages. I THINK I have also seen movies on here. (maybe not as I watch youtube a lot !) My guess is to drag and drop the movie file just as though it was a photo. It seems you are making great progress. As I mentioned, if I cannot get the TV working I hope to input RCA data from an Xtron DVB tuner through the VTR RCA terminals. I was going to get a Freeview HD, but that is being phased out; although the DVB T2 tuners are much better (I have read). I let you know when, and if, I get there. My conversion is due to start so pennies are scarce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliec Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, Rojie said: Well done you for getting the TV to turn on. After reading the manuals, yet again, my guess is your next step is to tune the set into the UK channels. You can certainly add photos, as I did when you requested shots of my 'woodwork'. Add them as attachments, drag and drop as it says below your messages. I THINK I have also seen movies on here. (maybe not as I watch youtube a lot !) My guess is to drag and drop the movie file just as though it was a photo. It seems you are making great progress. As I mentioned, if I cannot get the TV working I hope to input RCA data from an Xtron DVB tuner through the VTR RCA terminals. I was going to get a Freeview HD, but that is being phased out; although the DVB T2 tuners are much better (I have read). I let you know when, and if, I get there. My conversion is due to start so pennies are scarce aha! ill send a vid tomorrow. Yeah im gonna try find some videos on the UK channel tuner. Not my biggest worry as i have many DVDs and CDs to use and watch. The more i mess about with the car the more i love it!! i prob wont use the tv much, i have also seemed to find a couple radio stations (capital,kiss,heart,radio 6?) im also finding the previous owners saved songs amusing, has very eclectic taste if i could explain it in a sentence . next step is apple car play and Alloys, i just think it will add that little bit of modern looks and tech that finish it off. I would love to keep updated on your conversion and headunit work, will you be doing it yourself or sending your van to a specialist? Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I have only managed to get one UK radio station, and that is quite weak; but then I live in the 'sticks'. I don't have a frequency expander. I have not researched it yet, but the DVB TV tuner may bring me loads of radio stations. Like you, apart from the forced learning of Japanese, I am finding the 'voyage of discovery' very enjoyable. I am trying to discover whether I have radar or not. I have two sets of 'lights' in the lower front spoiler either side of the number plate. They are probably just running lights. I do not have the speedo bezel that goes with the radar, but then my speedo bezel has been changed to mph. My rear conversion will be done by a specialist. I have been waiting weeks for the special order maple veneered panels. Unfortunately, something went wrong and the wrong panels were ordered so I had to wait twice the normal leadtime. They were due yesterday. Birch ply is becoming quite difficult to obtain especially because of the recent upsurge in Alphard sales and further imports. Am looking forward to your video. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I managed to get the head unit to display the TV. I have no idea how !! Good news is there is capacity for 62 channels. Bad news is I have not yet discovered how to the tune in any yet ! I need to test that VTR input !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 So, where do we go from here? I thought I'd do some research on this problem we both face, and, The key question seems to be Is the TV system in the early Alphards (until 2008) Analogue ? If it is we are in trouble ! The UK does not transmit any Analogue TV any more as it was switched off no later than October 2012 ! My guess is that the Alphard system is Analogue but I hope to discover I'm wrong. More reading needed ! I ; I'll try and discover when Japan went digital. Questions ? Will the head unit receive digital signals ? If so, are the UK frequencies covered ? Looks to me as though the DVB T2 route will be the cheapest / quickest route IF IT WORKS . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Japan quit Analogue TV slightly before the UK. (2011) Are you sure Naeem showed you English TV on your van; and not another van you considered. I ask because my reading on the DVB situation in Japan and the UK is getting VERY deep and VERY heavy ! It seems that Japan (ISDB) and the UK (DVB T2) use different systems (oh what a surprise). However, I have not established whether they are incompatible or not. Less than £100 for a DVB T2 tuner is looking more a 'bargain' the more I read. I do hope you discover your HDD unit is capable of providing UK Digital TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliec Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Rojie said: Japan quit Analogue TV slightly before the UK. (2011) Are you sure Naeem showed you English TV on your van; and not another van you considered. I ask because my reading on the DVB situation in Japan and the UK is getting VERY deep and VERY heavy ! It seems that Japan (ISDB) and the UK (DVB T2) use different systems (oh what a surprise). However, I have not established whether they are incompatible or not. Less than £100 for a DVB T2 tuner is looking more a 'bargain' the more I read. I do hope you discover your HDD unit is capable of providing UK Digital TV. We Were gonna get a different van, but we took too long, it was a grade four white 07. same spec except it had apple car play, normal sound system and lower mileage (48k or so) ours is 69k black and has theatre surround, so both had positives and negatives (was also a grade 3) And yes im 100% sure it was the van we bought because i remember picking it up and Naeem walked me through the car, forgot to explain some things Also well done on getting your TV on! just another little quirk that makes the car that bit more luxurious and cool. Everyone who has sat in the back has enjoyed watching spongebob on the screen haha im not to worried about the whole tv uk channels not working, because i will get apple car play fitted, and you can just watch things on that Good Luck I will keep you updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 It has just occurred to me that the VTR may be an output for the middle seat passengers, not an input ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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