Appreciate the replies, the more i look at these cars the more impressed i am, can't wait to test drive a Vellfire when i find one local, seems the 3.5 liter is the way to go as i do most of my driving on the motorway and according to MPG figures i have seen are pretty good for a big beautiful cruiser. I have a peugeot boxer at the moment and i really don't enjoy driving it, nice and big.... too big.