Juan

On 6/9/2025 at 4:23 PM, Juan said:

Hi Everyone.

I don't see the suggested AUX belt P/N for the 2.4 Alphard 2AZ-FE in this Topic.

I was/am in the Market to buy one,  and did so. a 7PK1905 Gates.... Purely by accident I came across an anomaly,  simply because I received a rather aged belt and asked 'Gates' for an opinion(before I returned it to the supplier). Which then led me to their rather useful parts ref tool!

I wondered if anyone here may have an opinion on this anomaly:-

 

My Van is a ANH20W-PRXGK,  240X, CVFC,  built 2012.03

So the vast Majority of sites/Auto suppliers where you plug in Alphard ANH20 2.4 AZ-FE, Including Amayama(using my VIN) come up with a 17PK1905 belt ... which is of course 1905mm 7 rib

Amayama catalogue calls out 90916-02652 or 90916-02653, just a supplier differentiation(Bando v's Mitsuboshi). Both these are 17PK1905

No other serial or date breaks are mentioned for my specific VIN/configuration.

 

As mentioned above I just happened across the Gates p/n tool and found the below look up result(image).

As you can see there appears to be a ENGINE Serial range break , 7PK1905 for one and 7PK1933 for the other. My engine Serial falls into the 7PK1933,  as it is F877856

I have no idea what belt is currently on the engine(could be the original!!! from factory) and no way to measure it in situe. No intention of tearing down and then ordering the part 

As mentioned, I imagine the majority of people are not seeing this and probably are fitting 7PK1905 across the board (Fleabay, Autodoc etc just point in this direction for every model)

 

I know its only 28mm difference, probably there is plenty of variance in the tensioner for this........ and those auto factors are just being lazy or rationalising offering.

 

Just wondered if anyone had an opinion, or other source of Tech info that 100% clarifies this engine Serial break requirement.

I am sort of overthinking it I guess.....but If my belt has ever been changed prior probably its got a 7PK1905 on it ... if I go putting a 1933 slightly longer belt on it, maybe the tensioner has relaxed into being run with a shorter belt .... and vice versa, if its the original and is a 7PK1933 on the van right now what might happen if I had put on the shorter 7PK1905

 

Apologies for the wordy post...... sort of just came out that way

 

Hi  All

I believe I have confirmed there is indeed a Engine serial no. driven variant for the 2AZ-FE  Auxiliary Belt

As I said in my above post 95% of Suppliers/sources just indicate the one Belt, 7PK1905  (9091602652 or 9091602653)

Amayama 's on line catalogue, even when configured for my specific VIN gives these options:

I had 'assumed' 'China' ref. was somehow indicating a vehicle for CHINA Market....... seems not !. Some of these Engines were actually manufactured in a Toyota sister plant in China. and I must have one. (Not that that is inherently an issue to me BTW !)

I asked to Amayama support to verify and they confirmed the OEM Catalogue for my VIN only has one option 9091602599, which is a 7PK1933 belt

(So,  take care when using the Amayama on line catalogue)

I also checked YOSHI Parts online catalogue for my VIN and they list only 1 option , 90916002599

Therefore it seems the GATES product selector tool is a good way to differentiate:

Engine Number from: 0xxxxxx to: 6xxxxxx

Use 7PK1905 - Toyota p/n 9091602652 or 9091602653

Engine Number from: Cxxxxxx to: Gxxxxxx

Use 7PK1933 - Toyota p/n 90916002599

Looks like, if you have a Engine Serial Starting with a Letter between C and G, then it may well have been built in China (The engine that is)

I now have a Gates 7PK1933 in my hands  and when I get round to trying to fit it(Wont be for a couple of weeks),  I read someplace you can do this belt change entirely through the side lower wheel arch cover without having to remove engine mount etc and go in through the top.......I need to find again where I saw that. 

I'll come back the post if there is any issue

Hope this helps the overall Service parts list of this Thread

Hi Everyone.

I don't see the suggested AUX belt P/N for the 2.4 Alphard 2AZ-FE in this Topic.

I was/am in the Market to buy one,  and did so. a 7PK1905 Gates.... Purely by accident I came across an anomaly,  simply because I received a rather aged belt and asked 'Gates' for an opinion(before I returned it to the supplier). Which then led me to their rather useful parts ref tool!

I wondered if anyone here may have an opinion on this anomaly:-

My Van is a ANH20W-PRXGK,  240X, CVFC,  built 2012.03

So the vast Majority of sites/Auto suppliers where you plug in Alphard ANH20 2.4 AZ-FE, Including Amayama(using my VIN) come up with a 17PK1905 belt ... which is of course 1905mm 7 rib

Amayama catalogue calls out 90916-02652 or 90916-02653, just a supplier differentiation(Bando v's Mitsuboshi). Both these are 17PK1905

No other serial or date breaks are mentioned for my specific VIN/configuration.

As mentioned above I just happened across the Gates p/n tool and found the below look up result(image).

As you can see there appears to be a ENGINE Serial range break , 7PK1905 for one and 7PK1933 for the other. My engine Serial falls into the 7PK1933,  as it is F877856

I have no idea what belt is currently on the engine(could be the original!!! from factory) and no way to measure it in situe. No intention of tearing down and then ordering the part 

As mentioned, I imagine the majority of people are not seeing this and probably are fitting 7PK1905 across the board (Fleabay, Autodoc etc just point in this direction for every model)

I know its only 28mm difference, probably there is plenty of variance in the tensioner for this........ and those auto factors are just being lazy or rationalising offering.

Just wondered if anyone had an opinion, or other source of Tech info that 100% clarifies this engine Serial break requirement.

I am sort of overthinking it I guess.....but If my belt has ever been changed prior probably its got a 7PK1905 on it ... if I go putting a 1933 slightly longer belt on it, maybe the tensioner has relaxed into being run with a shorter belt .... and vice versa, if its the original and is a 7PK1933 on the van right now what might happen if I had put on the shorter 7PK1905

Apologies for the wordy post...... sort of just came out that way

19 hours ago, R4v3n said:

Hello @Juan 

Yep, still looking at this forum, and my emails (got notifications from quotes).

 

So take a look at the Pivot website just to verify if the plug&play harness is the very same between the GGH20 & the ANH20 (I guess but it's always better to verify).

 

So I asked directly the Pivot support, stating my situation, French import, only one in France, trying to get the correct model & harnesses for a 2009 GGH20, and they answered me (I don't paste the whole answer which was more complete, just the interesting part about parts) : 
 

which are the correct parts for the GGH20.

 

Then I bought everything at blackhawkjapan.

 

Seeing there's no english manual, I asked the support for one, and they told me : 
 

So I'm attaching in this post the supplementary picture.

 

Then I asked about the speed signal which seems to be on a 5P connector, they sent me the other attached picture which should be the correct one for you (as you probably don't have the cabling mess I have on mine).

 

So try that and if you have others problems, come back to me, I'll send you some others pics from them, otherwise you can just write to the Pivot support which is super nice & reactive.

 

Hope this helps

 

 

Thanks @R4v3n, really appreciate your reply.

Yes, The Plug and play harness's are listed same for my ANH20 and also I confirmed it translating the Japanese version document for the 3DA-T.

LoL on the comment you made about 'cabling mess' , I am sure mine will be same . The fitter who installed the UK Radio head, made the comment that it was a nightmare, absolutely full of Aftermarket accessories and mods.! seems that's what our Japanese friends do !

I have contacted both Pivot and Blackhawk Japan, most likely I'll buy the kit from Blackhawk Japan. and I'll post back here on results of installation !,  but that may be several weeks.

I will PM you, with couple of questions I see already(particularly that image with speed signal written in red underneath has confused me) you as not to fill this thread with non value comments. 

Once I have installed I'll update the thread later, but as said may be several weeks yet.

On 3/31/2022 at 4:51 PM, Chris.ac said:

https://pivotjp.com/product/3da/3da-t.html

(open link in chrome and it will auto translate to english)

 

I see this device, can be purchased for about £150.

 

From what I understand from the manuals, this device sits between the regular cruise control and the ecu, it can use the existing control stalk to control it, and allows you to set the cruise control up to 86mph.

 

It also incorporates a throttle response controller to set how 'eco' or 'sporty' your throttle is under foot.

 

Its quite expensive, but if people are looking for a way to partially unlock the cruise control speed limiter (68mph - 118kph as standard) AND add a means to tune their throttle response, this may be a good compromise, rather than going the hacked ecu route!

 

Anyone have any thoughts or experience? this is a toyota specific model, which means plug and play, I can see wiring harnesses listed for 10 and 20 series vehicles.

 

 

On 5/14/2022 at 11:12 PM, R4v3n said:

Well, I ordered it from blackhawkjapan. Fast delivery.

I installed it with the help of the english install doc and some help from the Pivot Japan support by email. They are VERY fast to answer and they give you the good information in the adapted form (plan, annotated diagram, picture ...).

And it works perfectly with my Toyota Cruise Control lever. I'm able to cruise at 140km/h on the cluster (135/136 in reality with GPS).

 

The only "tricky" part in my opinion is the Speed Signal wire, behing the audio head unit. It seems there's a version with a 5P connector, but I don't have this one. Instead I took a picture of all my connectors and they sent me the information of the right wire on a 16P connector from my picture.

 

So it's not cheap, but it works and it's easier than finding the HEX value in a ECU dump, because I can't find anybody with a Damos file for JDM Alphard/Vellfire.

Hi Both @Chris.ac and @R4v3n

Realise this thread is getting on a bit in age now , but I do hope you guys see this (Bit new to the forum so not sure how this one works)

Really happy to have come across you posts on this subject , after reading many threads on the subject.

@R4v3n I have a ANH20 Alphard 2012 with a stock Cruise control stalk, All works fine except of course restricted to 68mph 😒

Looks like this Pivot kit 3DA-T model is the solution for me too and I am super excited to try to get one.

I see you confirmed that it worked for you and you have a very similar van albeit a Vellfire

Wondered if you would be so kind as to share any details about the installation, hints tips photos or anything else ,,,,,, in particular the speed sensor wire. [I have already exchanged the Radio head unit over to a UK sourced Pioneer without Guidance... I do get, now and then, a speed sensor disconnect message on the Pioneer screen. so assume it was not connected to the radio head as no need(Also I read somewhere that this tends to be the practice when not needed)]

I can see the Japanese language Install and user guides PDF's on PIVOT website, but nothing is in English for the 3DA-T (Only 3DA has english). I don't really want to trust Google lens  to translate it!

Did PIVOT or Blackhawk Japan send you English materials ? could you share 

Apologies for the long post hope you can help and by all means PM me