GregH

Mine is 2nd gen too, vellfire.

Are you able to download the photos or do I need to add separately?

I was hoping the photos would show where inserted...apologies if you have to download them. First time attaching photos to the forum and guessing I haven't done it properly.

Of course. Depending on whether the seat is up/stowed or seat is down and stuck on runner, need to make sure the arrows line upIMG20221230104713.heic It won't release the seat unless arrows correspond. I used the other seat track to align. That's also the only spot it will allow you to push the two seat clamp mechanisms back down.IMG20221230104440.heic IMG20221230104653.heic Need to make sure these are both down to engage/lock seat in place so runner works. Worth double checking the seat slides after engaging, needs a solid thump to make sure both locks in place. If seat is down but won't slide, you can either press down the lever shown below. IMG20221230104228.heic Or use a screwdriver to push up/lever this one below. IMG20221230104613.heic I also used the "slide" lever at the same time but not sure whether that was necessary as the slide lever pushes the same thing as the screwdriver. Issue seems to be if you don't engage the seat fully, the slide lever can't fully release the runner...whereas a screwdriver can give u a bit more force to move it to align with the arrows and release the seat so you can engage it properly. Hope this helps.

Had the same issue myself, hadn't noticed until Christmas eve trying to find somewhere to stash the kids presents without them seeing. Back right seat wouldn't move on runner. There's one position on the runner where the two latches can be released, outside of this the seat won't click into place properly. My problem was I couldn't move the seat on the runner to line up with the arrow (genuinely don't know how they got it to move on the runner in the first place). There is a latch in the middle of the runner that you can press with a screwdriver (whilst also pulling the slide handle if the seat is down) which allows you to move the runner along the track with or without the seat locked in. This allows you to re-align the seat runner even if the seat isn't locked in or hasn't locked properly.

Long time reader/researcher first time poster. I'm Greg, based in Swansea and finally picked up my 08 silver Vellfire the week before Christmas, long old delay from summer purchase. Just wanted to say how useful this forum has been as a research tool. Hopefully, the more experience I have as an owner I'll be able to give back to the forum. Don't see too many alphards or vellfires down here, the elgrands seem more popular, but what a van it is! Looking forward to bumping into fellow enthusiasts in future.