Speedometer and odometer

[RAZ]

What is the best way to change the speedometer and odometer from km to miles on a 2011 Alphard ANH20?

[c.r. turner]

the speedo must have been changed on import ??

[Rojie]

4 hours ago, c.r. turner said:

the speedo must have been changed on import ??

 

I believe neither the speedo nor odo need to be changed on importation.

Bearing in mind the DVLA don't see either; I don't know whether the Auction sheet must be submitted to DVLA.

 

BUT ..

Some MOT testers will not be happy, others won't care and just will record what the odo figure as is ; although in kms, it will be recorded in miles; just the opposite of 'clocking'.

 

In the earlier models a conversion chip is fitted (which btw opens up the opportunity for clocking, hence another reason to see the Auction sheet).

The Auction certificate is a vital piece of official documentation as it records the odo setting, in kms, at the point of export.

 

I am sure the owners of the Gen 2 models can provide better information than I.

[Picasso]

You can have a canbus chip fitted which will change it to read in miles chips cost about £180.00 

[c.r. turner]

speedo must read mph 

[Rojie]

14 hours ago, c.r. turner said:

speedo must read mph 

OK

 

Overlays can be purchased to overcome this.

[dave1221]

When my Alphard arrives from Japan I will be looking to have the speedo and odometer converted. I found this company online who say they offer both services:

 

https://www.ncs-systems.com/canm8-k2m-1072.html

 

Has anyone heard of them or used their services?

[RAZ]

Thanks Dave that is the most interesting link so far. I drove my Alphard up from Derby to Edinburgh yesterday the the speed showing in Kl/H I little confusing.  Did you use the system in the link in your car?

 

[PaulE]

My dealer fitted a HUD which shows mph in the corner of the windscreen (they can be bought for a few pounds). I use this all the time as it is easy to see without taking eyes off the road so I rarely look at the speedo which is still in km. At MOT I make sure the garage records the ODO in KM- no problem. I didn't see the point of spending money to change to mph and I believe there can be serious issues changing the ODO electronically- please do a lot of homework before deciding.

[Geralt]

On 9/16/2023 at 4:30 PM, PaulE said:

My dealer fitted a HUD which shows mph in the corner of the windscreen (they can be bought for a few pounds). I use this all the time as it is easy to see without taking eyes off the road so I rarely look at the speedo which is still in km. At MOT I make sure the garage records the ODO in KM- no problem. I didn't see the point of spending money to change to mph and I believe there can be serious issues changing the ODO electronically- please do a lot of homework before deciding.

Couldn't agree more.

I too have HUD in MPH. Speedo/odo remains in KM. My MOT tester records it in KM.

I believe an import does not have to have the speedo converted if over ten years old. You just need a means to see the speed in MPH, hence the HUD.

 

It's a matter of opinion of course but I believe there will be an advantage to claiming that precisely nothing has been tinkered with in this respect when the time comes for selling it on.

[Geralt]

On 9/14/2023 at 10:43 PM, c.r. turner said:

speedo must read mph 

The MOT just requires that it works. It's not concerned about the units.

[c.r. turner]

5 hours ago, Geralt said:

The MOT just requires that it works. It's not concerned about the units.

as a retired car dealer who has imported over 100 cars from japan mainly figaros/shoguns the speed must be able to read in mph the same as the car needs a rear fog light its called compliance look it up !!!!!!!!

[Geralt]

8 hours ago, c.r. turner said:

as a retired car dealer who has imported over 100 cars from japan mainly figaros/shoguns the speed must be able to read in mph the same as the car needs a rear fog light its called compliance look it up !!!!!!!!

I did and it doesn't apply to the vehicle in question.

 

Like I said in my earlier answer, a speedo in mph is not required if the vehicle is 10 years or older.

 

A rear fog light is required to pass the MOT. A speedo in mph is not.

Edited September 18, 2023 by Geralt

[RAZ]

5 hours ago, Geralt said:

Couldn't agree more.

I too have HUD in MPH. Speedo/odo remains in KM. My MOT tester records it in KM.

I believe an import does not have to have the speedo converted if over ten years old. You just need a means to see the speed in MPH, hence the HUD.

 

It's a matter of opinion of course but I believe there will be an advantage to claiming that precisely nothing has been tinkered with in this respect when the time comes for selling it on.

Many thanks for your input. The HUD sounds interesting.  I would rather see it without looking down.  Can you buy them and fit them yourself?  If so where can you get them?

[Geralt]

Mine is a simple GPS speedo so it just needs an ignition supply for a neat installation or cigarette lighter for instant use. There are some CAN connected speedometers which might provide more info on Gen 2s but I have no experience of them.

 

Mine is like this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394862136029?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=kbshmbgbqmk&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=xtKKt1shTsu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

It has a built in compass which I like.

 

When you are happy with the HUD reflection position, you stick a small polarizing filter on the screen to make the display crisp. My HUD reflection is practically level with my eyes and to the side. I will post a photo later.

 

The only criticism I have is that if the vehicle has not been used in a while (weeks), it takes a minute or so to obtain GPS reading but this doesn't happen very often.

Edited September 18, 2023 by Geralt

[Mavill]

The process of changing the speedometer and odometer from kilometers (km) to miles on a 2011 Alphard ANH20 (or any vehicle) typically involves reprogramming or configuring the settings within the vehicle's onboard computer system. However, it's important to note that not all vehicles, including the 2011 Alphard ANH20, may have the option to switch between metric (km) and imperial (miles) units, as this could be determined by the region or country the vehicle was originally intended for.

[RAZ]

Thanks again for your input.  I do like the idea of the HUD and will investigate further the link with caution.  Cheers. Richard

[arthurj]

I got the Lockwood dials fitted. Very happy with them. Clock remains in km.

 

 

[Rojie]

On 9/15/2023 at 1:42 PM, RAZ said:

Thanks Dave that is the most interesting link so far. I drove my Alphard up from Derby to Edinburgh yesterday the the speed showing in Kl/H I little confusing.  Did you use the system in the link in your car?

 

 

When I used to regularly drive my car to Spain I had a sticker fitted to the inside of the windscreen.

 

At a glance you could see the km equivalent of miles, and vice versa.

 

Cost? About a fiver !

[RAZ]

Thanks.  A good idea. I have just made a sticker.. Cost zero.  But I will go for a more permanent solution in the long run.

[Chris.ac]

On 9/16/2023 at 4:30 PM, PaulE said:

My dealer fitted a HUD which shows mph in the corner of the windscreen (they can be bought for a few pounds). I use this all the time as it is easy to see without taking eyes off the road so I rarely look at the speedo which is still in km. At MOT I make sure the garage records the ODO in KM- no problem. I didn't see the point of spending money to change to mph and I believe there can be serious issues changing the ODO electronically- please do a lot of homework before deciding.

On 20 series, the speed signal feed to the dials is seperate to the signals running to the other ecus such as cruise, traction control, headunit, abs, auto parking assist. 

 

Worst that will happen is the conversion box will fail, in which case you just remove it/replace it.