Correct tyre size for ANH10W

[will and his alphard]

Hi Everyone,

 

I have recently bought a 2007 2.4 Alphard g (ANH10W)...

 

I bought it with 225/60 r17 tyres fitted... All the forums I have read state 225/55 r17 as standard. 225/55 r17 is also written on the door pillar.

 

I contacted the dealership who said "it's fine, there are various tyres it can have"

 

Can anyone please provide any definitive proof of which tyres SHOULD be fitted please?   

 

(I have checked Speedo with a Satnav and they are almost identical, I have heard of people fitting higher profile tyres for a smoother ride but would just like to know whether the 225/60 r17 is deemed as a modification or if it is deemed acceptable by Toyota)

 

Many thanks,

[Rojie]

1 hour ago, will and his alphard said:

Hi Everyone,

 

I have recently bought a 2007 2.4 Alphard g (ANH10W)...

 

I bought it with 225/60 r17 tyres fitted... All the forums I have read state 225/55 r17 as standard. 225/55 r17 is also written on the door pillar.

 

I contacted the dealership who said "it's fine, there are various tyres it can have"

 

Can anyone please provide any definitive proof of which tyres SHOULD be fitted please?   

 

(I have checked Speedo with a Satnav and they are almost identical, I have heard of people fitting higher profile tyres for a smoother ride but would just like to know whether the 225/60 r17 is deemed as a modification or if it is deemed acceptable by Toyota)

 

Many thanks,

 

Hello Will,

 

Welcome to the Forum.

 

Definitive ? Wow ! Quite assertive.

 

The recommended tyres, according to the Owners Manual, depends on the trim level.

This is largely due to the wheel size fitted by the OEM.

 

So the door pillar states a size, the dealership suggested it is fine, but you need more reassurance.

 

What can our membership say to convince you further ?

 

For a pseudo definitive answer please add your model trim level, and we will try and reassure you.

 

Changing wheel sizes and tyre sizes is not likely to be of any concern to Toyota.

Your insurance company ?  Yes, maybe. Toyota, unless under warranty?  No.

 

Generally, higher profile tyres will soften the ride, and, possibly, increase the roll.

[will and his alphard]

Thanks for the reply,

 

It is a 2007 Alphard 2.4  "g" (not 100% sure of trim level, sorry I'm a newb! Any pointers on how to work this out would be appreciated...) I believe it had 17" rims initially. It still has 17" rims. 

 

Yes, I am mainly concerned regarding the insurance. If having these tyres makes my insurance void I would like to get it sorted asap.

 

If these tyres void my insurance I would like the dealership to replace them under warranty. The dealership obviously aren't keen. If I can prove that they are incorrect I can argue with them (hence wanting a definitive answer). If the tyres are absolutely legit, and don't count as a modification then I am perfectly happy with them.

 

Many thanks,

 

[will and his alphard]

Ps the size written on the pillar is not what it's fitted with... Which got me wondering if they're ok... Just want my insurance to be completely legit!

 

[Rojie]

26 minutes ago, will and his alphard said:

Ps the size written on the pillar is not what it's fitted with... Which got me wondering if they're ok... Just want my insurance to be completely legit!

 

 

Do you know what model trim level you have ?

 

AT, AS, etc.

 

Otherwise send your VIN or registration to Picasso (by Private Message if you prefer) and ask him to search for your model number.

 

I don't think, imho, insurance companies are over interested in tyre wheel combinations provided they are close to the OEM, and not the cause of an accident.

However wheel offset is important.

 

The offset is normally stamped on the inside of the wheel; convenient, I know.

 

I'll check the handbook for 17 inch wheels, and get back to you.

[BigNev]

You could simply declare alloy wheels as a "modification".

Then it won't stress you out.

The size is totally fine and will not upset the car.

The last few years doing this hasn't made a penny difference to our premium.

 

Bizarrely, the LPG conversion brought the insurance DOWN on this Vellfire, and our Subaru, strange as owt..........

[BilboJ]

Hi there, I just looked in my Alphy manual (it's a Japanese Translation: JPZ Manuals or something like that) and the stated tyre size for a 2.4 ANH10W (FWD) is  225/55 R17 95W (so a W speed rating is still way in excess of any speed I'll ever go at, but Hey Ho.....)

See attached photo from the Manual - which sadly  I just had to remove - cos it's copyrighted!!. 

Cheers, Bill

 

Edited yesterday at 08:47 AM by BilboJ
I innocently infringed a copyright - sorry!!

[Rojie]

I don't disagree with the above, but,

 

OnIy applies to some trim levels.

 

The other common size is 205/R16 95H, depending on the trim level.

 

I suspect your tyre plate cites that size.

 

Either should be fine and are in common use in our community.

[will and his alphard]

Thanks everyone for the help and reassurance, much appreciated. I will be sending my vin to "picasso" shortly to find out exactly what trim level it is etc...

 

So the next silly newbie question - can anyone recommend what I should inflate my 225/60 r17s to??? (They are currently all at about 45psi...) 

 

Thanks,

[Rojie]

2 hours ago, will and his alphard said:

Thanks everyone for the help and reassurance, much appreciated. I will be sending my vin to "picasso" shortly to find out exactly what trim level it is etc...

 

So the next silly newbie question - can anyone recommend what I should inflate my 225/60 r17s to??? (They are currently all at about 45psi...) 

 

Thanks,

 

What pressure does your tyre plate state ? Drivers side.

 

It will not be in psi.

 

I seem to recall I use about 35psi.

[will and his alphard]

The tyre pressure listed is for the 225/55 r17s... It currently has 225/60 r17s, so I assume could require a slightly different pressure?

[BigNev]

45 is a bit too high.

It really will be fine at the same as the 55 height ratio, I'd guess it's 2.3 or 2.4 kpa (bar). 34 to 36 psi, on the plate.

They are not Formula 1 racing machines, a couple of psi are not going to mess up the ride or handling.

Nor would it in any car, in honest reality.

The pressure should be increased for extra load, most cars I've had give different pressures on the data plate for number of passengers, and then luggage carried.

So a small amount of pressure either way is absolutely not going to mess up the car.

What did you drive previously? And what did you run the tyres at on that? To put into context your concerns!!

Edited 9 hours ago by BigNev

[will and his alphard]

My last motor was a Kia Sedona, I went by the label which was in English (and it had the tyres as listed!)

 

I'm probably worrying about it all a bit too much to be honest. This is my first nice motor to be honest (previous cars have usually been anything with MOT for less than £200 lol!) 

 

Just want to look after this one and keep everything in good nick. I have no experience with these vehicles and wanted to ensure I wasn't running around on a silly tyre set up! 

 

I agree 45 seemed a bit high to me (though it does handle fine.)... Might put them at 38-40 psi and see how it goes...

 

Thank you all for the advice and reassurance, much appreciated 👍 

[BigNev]

We had a Sedona a few years ago! But that was wheelchair converted for my mother in law, and ran high pressures for the lots of extra weight of the ramp.

 

As a side comment, that had the same wheel spec - pcd and offset - as the Chrysler Grand Voyagers we had, and the Vellfire now.

That was very handy, as some previous owner of the Sedona had ended up with soft sidewall tyres, so I swapped the wheels over for a spare set off the GV,  with proper stiff sidewall / XL tyres. That did make the drive far less "squidgy" and wallows.

 

My opinion is you're a better person for thinking about it, (please don't worry though) than those who only do when it's too late, spotted flat or bald on an MOT!

 

We agree, this is one of the nicest cars we've owned too!

The Voyagers were a fantastic family bus, armchair comfort for many many miles of driving, and we we're a little apprehensive when it was time to change. 

But this is WAY better, REALLY happy with it so far!

 

You're most welcome for any advice that I can help with, and the lovely people on this forum too.

I'm pretty jolly new to the Alphard family as well, and this forum has been a great help!