Mega thread Alphard MPG!

[Teekay]

Please post your Alphard (or Vellfire) 

1. Year 

2. Model 

3. Driving (urban/motorway heavy or mix)

4. MPG you get 

If using only premium fuel, feel free to mention it. 👍🎌🥳...here we go!

[Mike Matts]

2006 

3ltr v6

mostly urban

23.6 mpg using e5 I have posted results comparing e10 vrs e5

[Teekay]

25 minutes ago, Mike Matts said:

2006 

3ltr v6

mostly urban

23.6 mpg using e5 I have posted results comparing e10 vrs e5

Thanks Mike can you please share link to e5 e10 compare link? This is 5 gear machine? Have you tried premium fuel? Might be interesting 

[Chris.ac]

1. 2010

2. GGH20W

3. Driving Motorway 60% Urban 40%

4. MPG upto 36 Motorway, 28 urban

Usually E5 if available, maybe 20% e10

[Teekay]

2 hours ago, Chris.ac said:

1. 2010

2. GGH20W

3. Driving Motorway 60% Urban 40%

4. MPG upto 36 Motorway, 28 urban

Usually E5 if available, maybe 20% e10

That's a V6? 2gr-fe? 6 speed transmission? Great!🎌

[R4v3n]

2 hours ago, Chris.ac said:

1. 2010

2. GGH20W

3. Driving Motorway 60% Urban 40%

4. MPG upto 36 Motorway, 28 urban

Usually E5 if available, maybe 20% e10

How ?

What is your motorway speed ?

[Chris.ac]

56mph

[Chris.ac]

Iots of M5/M4/M25 with lots of current roadworks reducing speeds to 60 or less, i just stick cruise on and occasionally have to drop it to 40mph

 

[Teekay]

5 hours ago, Chris.ac said:

Iots of M5/M4/M25 with lots of current roadworks reducing speeds to 60 or less, i just stick cruise on and occasionally have to drop it to 40mph

 

Chris, I too personally love cruising at 55-58 mph than going 70. I understand Japanese speed limit is around 55 ish and engines are optimised to give best economy too at that speed. Win win.

[Catweazle]

Please post your Alphard (or Vellfire) 

1. Year 2005

2. Model 3.0 v6 7 seater

3. Driving 30 miles per day mixed-stop start

4. MPG you get 24-25

Only ever used premium in the year of ownership

[Ceri]

Year 2002

2. Model 3.0 V6 AWD

3. Driving motorway mainly

4. MPG 18

 

LPG converted. Same MPG on gas as E5 99

[OldWellhouse]

Year 2004
Model 2.4 camper conversion
Driving Motorway 85%  rural roads and urban 15%
MPG 24.20

279 km(173mls) used almost exactly half a tank of e5 so just over £50.

I expected worse to be honest and had a slow puncture which might have made it a bit less efficient. 

Edited May 7, 2022 by OldWellhouse

[Teekay]

E5 E10 have 5 & 10 percent ethanol respectively AFAIK.

 

is E5 is 99 octane fuel? I understand E10 regular fuel is 95 octane.

Shell v-power is 99 octane. Don't know if it has ethanol mixed in it. Anyone?

[Rojie]

E5 is permitted to contain up to 5 per cent ethanol.

 

Most refineries in the UK do not add ethanol to E5.

 

West country E5 does contain ethanol.

 

If interested read up on the Shell, Esso (Exxon) and BP websites.

 

I think E5 can be as low as 97 Octane.

[R4v3n]

On 5/6/2022 at 4:36 PM, Chris.ac said:

56mph

Oh ok, I understand so.
Living in France, the majority of our highways are limited to 81 mph, so consumption is way higher.

[Rojie]

2 hours ago, R4v3n said:

Oh ok, I understand so.
Living in France, the majority of our highways are limited to 81 mph, so consumption is way higher.

 

As other members have said, the way to economy is 60mph.

Unless doing vast distances, and France is a large country, extra journey time is significantly compensated for by increased economy.

Especially for us pensioners !

[R4v3n]

And you don't have E85 in UK, right ?

[Teekay]

2 minutes ago, R4v3n said:

And you don't have E85 in UK, right ?

Thankfully not...AFAIK 

[R4v3n]

2 minutes ago, Teekay said:

Thankfully not...AFAIK 

Thankfully ?
I must miss something here ! If you can tell me in PM why, I'm curious.

[Teekay]

6 minutes ago, R4v3n said:

Thankfully ?
I must miss something here ! If you can tell me in PM why, I'm curious.

I don't mind saying here. It is nothing personal or rude.

 

Basically in short AFAIK all ethanol diluted fuels are not best for engine economy or ecology. I hope premium fuel continues to be available. Hope that makes sense. It's already proven above about mpg. I had used e10 and had bad experience.

[R4v3n]

Well economy is a question of price for 100km (or for 60 miles in your case). And fuel price is a question of taxes.
Ecology is another problem. E85 is emitting way less co² than any other fuel, but is emitting a bit more HC than regular (but it's still nothing compared to diesel).

BTW, E85 is very interesting for racing thanks to his burning temperature and his knock resistance.

Edited May 11, 2022 by R4v3n

[Rojie]

32 minutes ago, R4v3n said:

Well economy is a question of price for 100km (or for 60 miles in your case). And fuel price is a question of taxes.
Ecology is another problem. E85 is emitting way less co² than any other fuel, but is emitting a bit more HC than regular (but it's still nothing compared to diesel).

BTW, E85 is very interesting for racing thanks to his burning temperature and his knock resistance.

 

Forgive me, but what is E85, 85 Octane ?

 

If E85 is what I think it is, 85 per cent ethanol, my guess is unless you have a drag racer, you have no need for it.

 

 

 

[R4v3n]

Just now, Rojie said:

 

Forgive me, but what is E85, 85 Octane ?

 

If E85 is what I think it is, 85 per cent ethanol, my guess is unless you have a drag racer, you have no need for it.

 

 

 

It's 85% ethanol. (In reality, it's more like 85% ethanol in summer and 65% ethanol in winter, with inter-seasons adjusting levels).
And with E85 you are around 100-106 Octane.

 

Beside I'm a drifter (so pretty great to cool the turbo engine), E85 is way cheaper than any other fuel here. It's something like 50% or a bit more cheaper than regular.

[Thys]

2007

3l v6 G model 

Mostly urban on cornish lanes

A very disappointing 😔 18mpg. I use E5 and E10 

T

 

[Rojie]

2 hours ago, Thys said:

2007

3l v6 G model 

Mostly urban on cornish lanes

A very disappointing 😔 18mpg. I use E5 and E10 

T

 

 

Hi Thys,

 

You have a 5 speed auto; so I doubt you ever get into 5th gear !