Teekay Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Please post your Alphard (or Vellfire) 1. Year 2. Model 3. Driving (urban/motorway heavy or mix) 4. MPG you get If using only premium fuel, feel free to mention it. 👍🎌🥳...here we go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Matts Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2006 3ltr v6 mostly urban 23.6 mpg using e5 I have posted results comparing e10 vrs e5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teekay Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mike Matts said: 2006 3ltr v6 mostly urban 23.6 mpg using e5 I have posted results comparing e10 vrs e5 Thanks Mike can you please share link to e5 e10 compare link? This is 5 gear machine? Have you tried premium fuel? Might be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.ac Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1. 2010 2. GGH20W 3. Driving Motorway 60% Urban 40% 4. MPG upto 36 Motorway, 28 urban Usually E5 if available, maybe 20% e10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teekay Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Chris.ac said: 1. 2010 2. GGH20W 3. Driving Motorway 60% Urban 40% 4. MPG upto 36 Motorway, 28 urban Usually E5 if available, maybe 20% e10 That's a V6? 2gr-fe? 6 speed transmission? Great!🎌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4v3n Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Chris.ac said: 1. 2010 2. GGH20W 3. Driving Motorway 60% Urban 40% 4. MPG upto 36 Motorway, 28 urban Usually E5 if available, maybe 20% e10 How ? What is your motorway speed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.ac Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 56mph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.ac Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Iots of M5/M4/M25 with lots of current roadworks reducing speeds to 60 or less, i just stick cruise on and occasionally have to drop it to 40mph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teekay Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Chris.ac said: Iots of M5/M4/M25 with lots of current roadworks reducing speeds to 60 or less, i just stick cruise on and occasionally have to drop it to 40mph Chris, I too personally love cruising at 55-58 mph than going 70. I understand Japanese speed limit is around 55 ish and engines are optimised to give best economy too at that speed. Win win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Please post your Alphard (or Vellfire) 1. Year 2005 2. Model 3.0 v6 7 seater 3. Driving 30 miles per day mixed-stop start 4. MPG you get 24-25 Only ever used premium in the year of ownership 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceri Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Year 2002 2. Model 3.0 V6 AWD 3. Driving motorway mainly 4. MPG 18 LPG converted. Same MPG on gas as E5 99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldWellhouse Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) Year 2004 Model 2.4 camper conversion Driving Motorway 85% rural roads and urban 15% MPG 24.20 279 km(173mls) used almost exactly half a tank of e5 so just over £50. I expected worse to be honest and had a slow puncture which might have made it a bit less efficient. Edited May 7, 2022 by OldWellhouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teekay Posted May 7, 2022 Author Share Posted May 7, 2022 E5 E10 have 5 & 10 percent ethanol respectively AFAIK. is E5 is 99 octane fuel? I understand E10 regular fuel is 95 octane. Shell v-power is 99 octane. Don't know if it has ethanol mixed in it. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 E5 is permitted to contain up to 5 per cent ethanol. Most refineries in the UK do not add ethanol to E5. West country E5 does contain ethanol. If interested read up on the Shell, Esso (Exxon) and BP websites. I think E5 can be as low as 97 Octane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4v3n Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 4:36 PM, Chris.ac said: 56mph Oh ok, I understand so. Living in France, the majority of our highways are limited to 81 mph, so consumption is way higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, R4v3n said: Oh ok, I understand so. Living in France, the majority of our highways are limited to 81 mph, so consumption is way higher. As other members have said, the way to economy is 60mph. Unless doing vast distances, and France is a large country, extra journey time is significantly compensated for by increased economy. Especially for us pensioners ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4v3n Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 And you don't have E85 in UK, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teekay Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, R4v3n said: And you don't have E85 in UK, right ? Thankfully not...AFAIK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4v3n Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Teekay said: Thankfully not...AFAIK Thankfully ? I must miss something here ! If you can tell me in PM why, I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teekay Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, R4v3n said: Thankfully ? I must miss something here ! If you can tell me in PM why, I'm curious. I don't mind saying here. It is nothing personal or rude. Basically in short AFAIK all ethanol diluted fuels are not best for engine economy or ecology. I hope premium fuel continues to be available. Hope that makes sense. It's already proven above about mpg. I had used e10 and had bad experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4v3n Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) Well economy is a question of price for 100km (or for 60 miles in your case). And fuel price is a question of taxes. Ecology is another problem. E85 is emitting way less co² than any other fuel, but is emitting a bit more HC than regular (but it's still nothing compared to diesel). BTW, E85 is very interesting for racing thanks to his burning temperature and his knock resistance. Edited May 11, 2022 by R4v3n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, R4v3n said: Well economy is a question of price for 100km (or for 60 miles in your case). And fuel price is a question of taxes. Ecology is another problem. E85 is emitting way less co² than any other fuel, but is emitting a bit more HC than regular (but it's still nothing compared to diesel). BTW, E85 is very interesting for racing thanks to his burning temperature and his knock resistance. Forgive me, but what is E85, 85 Octane ? If E85 is what I think it is, 85 per cent ethanol, my guess is unless you have a drag racer, you have no need for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4v3n Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just now, Rojie said: Forgive me, but what is E85, 85 Octane ? If E85 is what I think it is, 85 per cent ethanol, my guess is unless you have a drag racer, you have no need for it. It's 85% ethanol. (In reality, it's more like 85% ethanol in summer and 65% ethanol in winter, with inter-seasons adjusting levels). And with E85 you are around 100-106 Octane. Beside I'm a drifter (so pretty great to cool the turbo engine), E85 is way cheaper than any other fuel here. It's something like 50% or a bit more cheaper than regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thys Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2007 3l v6 G model Mostly urban on cornish lanes A very disappointing 😔 18mpg. I use E5 and E10 T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Thys said: 2007 3l v6 G model Mostly urban on cornish lanes A very disappointing 😔 18mpg. I use E5 and E10 T Hi Thys, You have a 5 speed auto; so I doubt you ever get into 5th gear ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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