Ken88 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Hello everyone, Im thinking of purchasing a 2012 or 2013 Toyota 2.4 Hybrid (undecided yet) next week. This is because i was told that on the newer models, due to the design and the newer hybrid drive, that these would get on average 45mpg compared to the older models? I was also considering saving some money and to buy a previous generation model. Is it worth paying more for the newer generation? Can anyone who has the similar/same model verify if this is true and what they are getting? Anyone help would be much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualGuy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Wow, almost 18 months on and no response 😬. I'm interested in the same question - anyone have any information, advice, figures etc? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Hello Both, There is a thread on this Forum about actual fuel figures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.ac Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 14 hours ago, VirtualGuy said: Wow, almost 18 months on and no response 😬. I'm interested in the same question - anyone have any information, advice, figures etc? Thanks! Yes its worth buying newer model, next gen hybrid engine, more gear ratios on the 2.4lt engine gearbox, better regenerative braking. That and the older vehicles are packing battery cells that are several years older. Its not just the hybrid system, its age related wear on all the components like rubbers etc, regardless of mileage, entropy is a bugger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualGuy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Chris.ac said: Yes its worth buying newer model, next gen hybrid engine, more gear ratios on the 2.4lt engine gearbox, better regenerative braking. That and the older vehicles are packing battery cells that are several years older. Its not just the hybrid system, its age related wear on all the components like rubbers etc, regardless of mileage, entropy is a bugger. Thanks Chris, that's helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Velasco Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just got a 2012 2.4l hybrid and am averaging only 6 km/l on ECO mode. What could be wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Jorge Velasco said: Just got a 2012 2.4l hybrid and am averaging only 6 km/l on ECO mode. What could be wrong? 14 mpg ! What kind of motoring are you doing. How do you know (think) your kml is so low ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Velasco Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Based on the photo? Unless this is very inaccurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Hi Jorge, I can't take this any further with you, but I am absolutely sure you will get some helpful suggestions from other members. Is your odometer reading Kilometres or Miles ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichiRichi Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 2:47 PM, Jorge Velasco said: Based on the photo? Unless this is very inaccurate? Hey, also thinking of getting this vehicle and have the same question. Did you sort out the issue and what is your real life mpg? Would be super helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 hours ago, RichiRichi said: Hey, also thinking of getting this vehicle and have the same question. Did you sort out the issue and what is your real life mpg? Would be super helpful! Hello Richard, Welcome to the Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Velasco Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Not solved it yet. Not sure who I have to talk to. I het about 5,5 km/l as I usually do city driving. Of I make a long trip on the motorway, it goes up to 7++ km/l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Jorge Velasco said: Not solved it yet. Not sure who I have to talk to. I het about 5,5 km/l as I usually do city driving. Of I make a long trip on the motorway, it goes up to 7++ km/l Have you verified that the reading is probably accurate ? The fill up test ? Or that the van is a gas guzzler, or has suspect electronics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Velasco Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Not sure, How do I check if the reading is accurate? Hopefully, it’s just that. Fill-up test? One time I loaded 37 litres and got about 185 miles. What does that translate to? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew binoj Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Mine is showing the same as 6.1km/l. However I worked out and roughly getting 26-27mpg doing motorway miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherdom Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Jorge Velasco said: One time I loaded 37 litres and got about 185 miles. What does that translate to? Just over 8km/l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Velasco Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, anotherdom said: Just over 8km/l Sorry, I meant in mpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 5 hours ago, mathew binoj said: Mine is showing the same as 6.1km/l. However I worked out and roughly getting 26-27mpg doing motorway miles. 14mpg. around town with a 3.5L seems OK to me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, anotherdom said: Just over 8km/l 185/37 is 5. 5m / l is 22.5 mpg. Not seriuously bad, depending on traffic and driving style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 19 hours ago, Jorge Velasco said: Not solved it yet. Not sure who I have to talk to. I het about 5,5 km/l as I usually do city driving. Of I make a long trip on the motorway, it goes up to 7++ km/l I think your electronics are suspect and suspect you probably get a better mileage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Jorge Velasco said: Not sure, How do I check if the reading is accurate? Hopefully, it’s just that. Fill-up test? One time I loaded 37 litres and got about 185 miles. What does that translate to? Thanks in advance. Fill up test. Record mileage/kilometer reading. Fill tank. Run to about a quarter full. Record odometer again. Fill tank. Consumption is distance covered divided by fuel used. This, of course, assumes your odometer records distance correctly ! And is, of course, an average; you may need to consider your driving style and traffic too and 'adjust' accordingly. But, it provides a benchmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Velasco Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Rojie said: I think your electronics are suspect and suspect you probably get a better mileage. Where can I have this looked at? Any shop that services Alphards? What do I tell the mechanic to look for? To recalibrate the “electronic mileage monitor”? thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojie Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Jorge Velasco said: Where can I have this looked at? Any shop that services Alphards? What do I tell the mechanic to look for? To recalibrate the “electronic mileage monitor”? thanks in advance If you just bought recently from a dealer, take it back to them and request they resolve the issue. Act now, not later. Sadly, I can't advise on who can look at it. See later ! I have an older model. Before spending on 'repairs' I would try, again, to ascertain what mileage you are actually getting. If your consumption, ignoring the dash reading, is 'normal', maybe you should consider ignoring the dash reading. Do you have any warning lights on the dash ? Call Japanese MPV Specialists, in Uxbridge, ask if they could take a 'quick look'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualGuy Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 A not-very-scientific estimate on my 2012 Hybrid for mainly motorway / A road driving is around 26-28mpg. The hybrid really comes into its own around town where it becomes much more frugal when not succumbing to the inner boy racer, such as being tempted to switch off the 'ECO mode' when pulling away at lights or using the automatic gearbox's 'sport' mode. I find that if I drive as smoothly as I can, avoiding temptation and the disadvantage of lugging the vehicle's weight from a dead start to a decent speed in a short amount of time, I can travel around town for what seems like pittance. But it's really nice to have the option of a decent amount of power if and when that is what is required - just don't do it too often and it's reasonably economical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Velasco Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, VirtualGuy said: A not-very-scientific estimate on my 2012 Hybrid for mainly motorway / A road driving is around 26-28mpg. The hybrid really comes into its own around town where it becomes much more frugal when not succumbing to the inner boy racer, such as being tempted to switch off the 'ECO mode' when pulling away at lights or using the automatic gearbox's 'sport' mode. I find that if I drive as smoothly as I can, avoiding temptation and the disadvantage of lugging the vehicle's weight from a dead start to a decent speed in a short amount of time, I can travel around town for what seems like pittance. But it's really nice to have the option of a decent amount of power if and when that is what is required - just don't do it too often and it's reasonably economical. Juat out of curiosity, what is your reading for km/l with that kind of driving discipline? Also, what even is EV Mode for? I tried it before but it only lasts for seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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