Velfire 2010 Series 20 - Seat Runner Removal

[NorthBoy]

HI, I hope everyone is having a great weekend.

 

I've been busy removing the rear two seats and the running rails that attach on the LHS and RHS side of the vehicle.  I sued this Forum and the TC's Anything Goes videos on You Tube for assistance.  I am now however stuck, and it is driving me nuts.

 

1.  Firstly,  as is shown in Picture 2, the metal clips in the bracket are all raised - how can I lower them?  Not sure how they ended up like this, but I can't find away to release them so that lie flat within the bracket housing - Is it possible?

2. Ideally, I want to remove the two brackets that move along the runners on the floor tbh.  This will create a completely flat surface for what I want to do next.  However unlike series 10, I can't see blots that would allow me to unbolt the runners and slide off the brackets.  I've read the other advice for Series 10 and was hoping to following that method, but my runners appear bolted to the underside of the vehicle. with no access from within the vehicle itself  Also the bolt (picture 4) on the end of the runner also seems like it is fixed with tag-weld.  Is it possible to remove the ends and runners, or do I need to have them unbolted from the underneath of the vehicle?  If that is the case, can that be done DIY, or is it a trip to a garage.  If so anyone know of a garage/fitter who can do this.  I am based in the midlands.

 

Any help on this will be hugely appreciated.

 

Simon

[nigel swatts]

hi simon i have completely removed my runners for a conversion, you can remove the stops, the other side to the tag welded bolts you can unscrew to remove them, the slideing rsil pic 2 if the hooks are up you can just push them down or with a screwddriver placed on the locking hooks (as if the seat was locked in) the rails should slide easy. if you need to remove the rails totally the bolts are underneath lots of people said fule tank had to be dropped but i managed mine with out dropping tank reasonably easy.

hope this helps

Edited Monday at 03:13 PM by nigel swatts

[Gamith]

I know nothing about the 20 series but have you tried moving the tab to one side and lowering the catches? Failing that the middle lever that is pointing up may be part of the system.

I have converted ours into a sort of camper van with an 18mm thick floor on top of the carpet. I left the runners and cut out slots around them instead, putting some rubmatting down over the top.

Recently I have added a false floor for bedding etc to stay.

[NorthBoy]

Nigel and Gamith,  I appreciate your advice.

 

I took a look at the rails when I got home from work this evening.  I managed to get the hooks lowered again.  Not entirely sure what I did but moving them back and forward seemed to 'release' something and they are both low again!  I even managed to remove one of the end stops (fresh eyes and Nigel's words).  There is a problem with the bolt on the other rail it keeps spinning without unscrewing - I am guess it is crossed threaded or something.  I'll need to work out how to get that undone.

 

Having seen how this works now, I am going to see if the brackets can be slid off the front end of the rails (by the drivers door well - if there is enough space.  All the seats will need to come out, but if possible it means I don't need to get under the vehicle.  I can then remove the brackets and re-instate the brackets for the middle seats and refit the seats!

 

Nigel - when you unbolted the rails from underneath, did you have the vehicle up on a ramp, or raised on your drive way with a jack and stays?

[Rojie]

On 6/15/2025 at 6:17 PM, NorthBoy said:

HI, I hope everyone is having a great weekend.

 

I've been busy removing the rear two seats and the running rails that attach on the LHS and RHS side of the vehicle.  I sued this Forum and the TC's Anything Goes videos on You Tube for assistance.  I am now however stuck, and it is driving me nuts.

 

1.  Firstly,  as is shown in Picture 2, the metal clips in the bracket are all raised - how can I lower them?  Not sure how they ended up like this, but I can't find away to release them so that lie flat within the bracket housing - Is it possible?

2. Ideally, I want to remove the two brackets that move along the runners on the floor tbh.  This will create a completely flat surface for what I want to do next.  However unlike series 10, I can't see blots that would allow me to unbolt the runners and slide off the brackets.  I've read the other advice for Series 10 and was hoping to following that method, but my runners appear bolted to the underside of the vehicle. with no access from within the vehicle itself  Also the bolt (picture 4) on the end of the runner also seems like it is fixed with tag-weld.  Is it possible to remove the ends and runners, or do I need to have them unbolted from the underneath of the vehicle?  If that is the case, can that be done DIY, or is it a trip to a garage.  If so anyone know of a garage/fitter who can do this.  I am based in the midlands.

 

Any help on this will be hugely appreciated.

 

Simon

 

Firstly,

 

Do you have a 10 series, as in your profile, or a 20 series ?

Your profile needs to be accurate or members will not be able to provide relevant guidance !

 

I believe on either, you have to partially remove the rails and slide the seat carriers out.

 

Refitting, as they say, is a simple reverse process.

 

The good news is if you have a series 10 that is done from inside, the not so good news is if you have a seies 20 it is done from underneath the van.