Alunj Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 I have always wondered what the 100v switch was for in my Alphard. After finding out about the outlet in the centre console, I would like to know what accessories are available?
MonsterS Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 Most things with a charger. I cut the module out and installed USB chargers in their place.
timmers_uk Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) I picked up a 110v induction hob from the states when I was over there which works great off the 100v inverter. When things pick up again and I can get back onto the conversion, I'm planning to get a 2 ring induction hob from Japan via amazon and fit that rather than a gas hob. Just be aware the inverter has a 1500w limit so you can't chuck in your usual 2.2Kw induction hob (what the US hobs are mostly) - Japan seems to have a wide selection of <1500w 2 ring induction hobs. I'm told US/Japan microwaves are also a good choice Edited March 31, 2020 by timmers_uk
Garelius Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 My Alphard (2007, G, hybrid) from Ecocampers came with induction hob and 600w microwave. Engine needs to be in “READY” and 100v button pressed and they work fine. Good to have lazy microwave meals option at the end of an entire day of intense leasure. Don’t yet know if they can be used at same time. When in use the petrol engine starts and stops as the battery charge requires it. Does anyone know which battery this power is coming from?
R4v3n Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 On 3/30/2020 at 9:53 AM, MonsterS said: Most things with a charger. I cut the module out and installed USB chargers in their place. Did you removed the 100v AC converter ? If yes, can you tell me where it is located ? Thanks !
MonsterS Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Hi, it is under the middle box between passenger and driver seat. I unplugged it and then found the + and - wires and connected the USB sockets to it. This way it only powers on when I hit the button. I left the converter in the space. but make sure you solder the wires and use heat shrink wraps on it then cable tape. (the fabric type) to stop rubbing on the metal housing.
R4v3n Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, MonsterS said: Hi, it is under the middle box between passenger and driver seat. I unplugged it and then found the + and - wires and connected the USB sockets to it. This way it only powers on when I hit the button. I left the converter in the space. but make sure you solder the wires and use heat shrink wraps on it then cable tape. (the fabric type) to stop rubbing on the metal housing. Thanks for your answer. I was going to remove the dashboard, so if it's only under the console box, it'll be very very much easier. I'll check this later. Thanks again !
R4v3n Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Well, it's not under the console box in the 2009 Vellfire
Rojie Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Not even the console between the seats (not in front of the seats) ?
R4v3n Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Rojie said: Not even the console between the seats (not in front of the seats) ? No. But I finally found the information after some research with the Alphard 1st gen inverter assy part number. It seems to be under the driver's seat (RHD version) : https://www.amayama.com/en/part/toyota/8621058030 part 86210A . Will have to unmount the front seat to access it, it seems.
Rojie Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Bonjour ! Looking, very carefully, at that EPC drawing you have supplied I would say the unit is on the centre line of the vehicle. Presumably, if it is under the drivers seat, it will be very easy to see it in situ. I don't have a Vellfire, or any second evolution model, so I can't check. Where are the output sockets to connect an appliance to the 100V inverter system ? On the earlier models they are behind the console between the front seats (if there is one on your vehicle). What is your model number eg, ATH10, or whatever ?
R4v3n Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 21 hours ago, Rojie said: Bonjour ! Looking, very carefully, at that EPC drawing you have supplied I would say the unit is on the centre line of the vehicle. Presumably, if it is under the drivers seat, it will be very easy to see it in situ. I don't have a Vellfire, or any second evolution model, so I can't check. Where are the output sockets to connect an appliance to the 100V inverter system ? On the earlier models they are behind the console between the front seats (if there is one on your vehicle). What is your model number eg, ATH10, or whatever ? Bonsoir I finally found the converter. It is really under the driver's seat. As I don't have an Alphard I'll not pollute this topic, but in the Vellfire section there's one similar, so I'll post in it !
Guest Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 On 7/20/2021 at 9:02 AM, Garelius said: Engine needs to be in “READY” and 100v button pressed and they work fine. am I correct in thinking that the engine must be running to operate a 600W microwave?
Rojie Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, AlphaMZ said: am I correct in thinking that the engine must be running to operate a 600W microwave? No, but if the engine isn't running you could soon run your main battery down. The outlet is intended to power (Japanese) entertainment devices whilst on the move.
Rojie Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, AlphaMZ said: just as I'd thought, so best to run for a few minutes or more! Which inverter are we referring to ? 1500 watts is referring to Hybrid machines. The 100V inverter in the Gen 1 Alphie V6 is rated at 100 watts. Trying to draw more than 100 watts, ie. 8A will trip the circuit. AlphaMZ please note. Microwave ovens are very quick, but also very inefficient; often about 50 per cent. The magnetron also has quite a surge of current on start up. So don't be surprised if your 600 watt microwave (Kettle or Toaster) takes well over a kilowatt ! So how many kilowatts are they in a 65 Ah battery ? If watts equals amps times volts, 600 watts is 50 A from a 12V source! At 100 per cent efficiency !! As lead acid batteries should not be over discharged; you can envisage the problem. Now if you have a leisure battery, say 110Ah, things become a little more manageable. Low power kettles and microwaves are available, but can be rather slow to function. If we are talking Hybrid machines, that have the READY button that is a different matter. 230v hookup (or Shorepower as I call it) or gas is the way to go ! If you are on shorepower you should have about 16A to play with; so no problem.! Good Luck 2 hours ago, AlphaMZ said: If we are talking Hybrid machines, that is a different matter. 230v hookup (or Shorepower as I call it) or gas is the way to go ! If you are on shorepower you should have about 16A to play with; so no problem.! Good Luck Edited April 4, 2022 by Rojie Corrections and Typos
Rojie Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Rojie said: Which inverter are we referring to ? The 100V inverter in the Gen 1 Alphie V6 is rated at 100 watts. Trying to draw more than 100 watts, ie. 8A will trip the circuit. AlphaMZ please note. Microwave ovens are very quick, but also very inefficient; often about 50 per cent. The magnetron also has quite a surge of current on start up. So don't be surprised if your 600 watt microwave (Kettle or Toaster) takes well over a kilowatt ! So how many kilowatts are they in a 65 Ah battery ? If watts equals amps times volts, 600 watts is 50 A ! At 100 per cent efficiency !! As lead acid batteries should not be over discharged; you can envisage the problem. Now if you have a leisure battery, say 110Ah, things become a little more manageable. Low power kettles and microwaves are available, but can be rather slow to function. If we are talking Hybrid machines, that have the READY button that is a different matter. 230v hookup (or Shorepower as I call it) or gas is the way to go ! If you are on shorepower you should have about 16A to play with; so no problem.! Good Luck I have no idea what the output from the 240V Hybrid inverter is. Edited April 4, 2022 by Rojie More Typos !
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