Mega thread Alphard MPG!

[arthurj]

Another data point, this time urban driving in the series 20 hybrid.

 

1. Year 2012

2. Model Vellfire Hybrid

3. Driving 152km, town driving, shopping trips, ECO mode

4. MPG 25.3mpg

This and the last post were using E10. Next time I do a full tank I’ll try E5 instead. I also have a suspicion my hybrid battery isn’t working well as it loses a lot of charge overnight.

[Voodoo101]

Thought I would share this

 

1. Year: 2009

2. Model: 2.4l Vellfire

3. Driving: Urban driving, normally stop start though the local councils traffic light system (I'm sure they have shares)

4. MPG: Dial reads 6.5m/l so conversion says 29.55mpg

[mick85]

1. 2010

2. Vellfire 3.5 V6 FWD

3. 90% city driving, traffic lights, stop starts, etc 10% motorway

4. 25 mpg

The 25 mpg wasn't using the computer readout, was me calculating the litres of fuel used over X amount of miles. Should be noted that I used an extremely light right foot, just being very conscious to try and get the best fuel consumption. There was maybe a few occasions where I put the foot down, but only a few.

[VirtualGuy]

There does seem to be a huge divergence between not just different engines / models but also between different experiences of similar specs - presumably mostly down to styles of driving. 

I'm currently considering a 2012 2.4 hybrid Velfire 'Executive Lounge' and have a feeling it is perhaps not going to be quite as frugal as I'd hoped. My wife is gently turning my attention to a 2015 Voxy hybrid (1.8L), which does not pique my interest in the same way the Alphard does, but it is undoubtedly more economical and, in the long run, would be more in tune with the way things are going in terms of environmental considerations and fuel prices. 

Decisions decisions... 🤨  

Edited August 28, 2022 by VirtualGuy
Additional and revised thoughts

[arthurj]

33 minutes ago, VirtualGuy said:

 

I'm currently considering a 2012 2.4 hybrid Velfire 'Executive Lounge' and have a feeling it is not going to be as frugal as I'd hoped.

Mine is the lowest mpg data I’ve seen for an Alphard/Vellfire hybrid, series 10 or 20. I do think the battery’s on the way out but I can’t find anyone to diagnose it. That said, it’s lovely to drive.

 

Even in the best case though it’s not going to be cheap to run. It’s huge - I parked next to an Estima yesterday and there’s quite a size difference, the Voxy’s even smaller. So I’d pick what size you need and go with that.

[VirtualGuy]

1 minute ago, arthurj said:

Mine is the lowest mpg data I’ve seen for an Alphard/Vellfire hybrid, series 10 or 20. I do think the battery’s on the way out but I can’t find anyone to diagnose it. That said, it’s lovely to drive.

 

Even in the best case though it’s not going to be cheap to run. It’s huge - I parked next to an Estima yesterday and there’s quite a size difference, the Voxy’s even smaller. So I’d pick what size you need and go with that.

 

1 minute ago, arthurj said:

Mine is the lowest mpg data I’ve seen for an Alphard/Vellfire hybrid, series 10 or 20. I do think the battery’s on the way out but I can’t find anyone to diagnose it. That said, it’s lovely to drive.

 

Even in the best case though it’s not going to be cheap to run. It’s huge - I parked next to an Estima yesterday and there’s quite a size difference, the Voxy’s even smaller. So I’d pick what size you need and go with that.

Could be good advice there, thanks.  The estima is not right for our needs - we like the height and the generally larger vehicle.  

[Gord]

On 6/5/2022 at 11:59 PM, Teekay said:

Anyone with LPG kit and can add some stats? 

I am a v6 alphard 2005 16l per 100kms  mostly moterway at 110 kmh  is that good or bad?

 

[Gord]

On 5/20/2022 at 10:02 AM, OldWellhouse said:

UPDATE!

I must have gotten this wrong somehow but I was driving like Miss Daisy and I sat behind a Royal Mail truck on the motorway.

582kms = 361mls used 48.8L of E5. By my calculations(google) that makes 33.6MPG? 

Surely that isn't right?

For me 48.8 divisable 3.6 * 13.5 lts per 100 kms seems to me better

 

[Gord]

Just now, Gord said:

divisable oops    divided is better 

 

[mathew binoj]

On 8/28/2022 at 7:01 PM, arthurj said:

Mine is the lowest mpg data I’ve seen for an Alphard/Vellfire hybrid, series 10 or 20. I do think the battery’s on the way out but I can’t find anyone to diagnose it. That said, it’s lovely to drive.

 

Even in the best case though it’s not going to be cheap to run. It’s huge - I parked next to an Estima yesterday and there’s quite a size difference, the Voxy’s even smaller. So I’d pick what size you need and go with that.

Mine shows 6.3km/L. I'm bit heavy on my right foot.  2014 Hybrid. Don't think I never use Hybrid as the engine starts nearer to 20mph. 

[Quimbasher]

2010 GGH20 3.5V6 

With the oem 18s and a fresh service iv had 13.2km/L on a long run at around 60mph. Usually would be 12.5km/l close to 35mpg. But iv moved to 20" wheels and cant get much better than 11km/l so 32mpg. Really noticeable drop so may look at selling them and searching for light weight alloys instead. 

[pipsyp]

2008 AH10 Alphard V 2.4 AS converted camper (rear kitchen, poptop)

 

Last tank 15.5mpg

In fairness all urban/extra urban.  Does nearly twice that on a long run (best I've seen is just over 30 I think).

 

I did start off on E10 which was fine, but definitely find it drives a bit better (perkier, torquier) on E5 so that's all I use now.  Last fill £102.

[Jimmympv]

I got my Alphard AH20 3.5 V6 on Saturday just gone. First full tank lasted me around 260miles which is about 23mpg. That was 60% motorway as I drove it 130miles home from the dealer. 
 

I filled it up with Tesco premium which is what I always used in my VXR and never had an issue with it plus it’s the cheapest premium around me by about 4 or 5p/l. 
 

I have eco mode set to on, don’t how much of a difference that makes, and I have been experimenting with the go pedal quite a lot! Who knew a two tonne brick could shift as much as this 😂 

 

On my second tank now, I noticed that it only took around 53l to fill up at the pump, I believe it has a 65l tank so had about 12l of fuel left in it when the light came on which is about 80miles of range which I thought was a bit odd. I’m used to getting maybe 25miles when the petrol light comes on in my previous cars. 
 

The speedo has been MPH converted and the Oddo is also showing in miles now rather than kilometres. Would this also mean that my dash display is now showing miles per litre not kilometres per litre? 

Edited October 25 by Jimmympv

[Gamith]

Alphard:

1. 2005

2. ANH10W 2.4l

3. Mostly Motorway

4. 29.57

Only used Tesco unleaded so far.

 

First long trip, mostly motorways with some country roads early in the morning, so fairly light traffic and consistent. There was a little urban driving.

 

Went from top-up to top-up a a trip reset and got:

                     Metric                 Imperial

Kilometers   525.00                326.22      Miles

top up            66.66
price per litre   1.33
litres bought   50.16                   11.03      Gallons

KpL                 10.47                  29.57       MpG

 

Which is probably close to a best case scenario. 

I have removed the rather messy camper conversion and it's now basically a 5 seat van.

I tried to use the cruise control when I could but on the journey back the traffic was a little too busy to allow that a lot of the time.

Still - I'm quite pleased that a long journey isn't too far down on the economy scale.